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Margiotta, Protano, Andreucci, Pelosi, Capocci family names

 
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Peter Barnes



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MessagePosté le: Mer Mai 20, 2009 2:17 pm    Sujet du message: Margiotta, Protano, Andreucci, Pelosi, Capocci family names Répondre en citant

This is my first post on my first day as a member of this forum. I am Peter Barnes ,63, retired and like most of you researching family history.

Most of my info comes from mum,85, and her 3 younger sisters. Our family name is Margiotta- originating around Caserta but settling in Picinisco/Frosinone

Margiotta/Pelosi/Capocci

Grandad Girardo born 31/03/1897 Manchester England- father Antonio Margiotta married to Maria Assunta Pelosi (street organ players) Antonio had a brother Angelo Margiotta married to Anna/Annie Capocci(again street organ players)

Protano(a)/ andreucci

Girardo Margiotta married Rosa Protano in England But my nonna Rosa came to England from "Frosinone" when she was 23. She died 1957 aged 63 so was born 1894. Girardo had a sister Maria/Mary who was married to Arcangelo Andreucci, born Picinisco c 1883. Arcangelo had a brother Giovani/John again born Picinisco c 1886. the 2 brothers started an ice cream business in Manchester, England, and traded as "John Andrews Ices"

At the time of the 1911 census John was married to Maggie,a girl from Sale Cheshire, England and they had 2 children Mary and Alek.

As a child i remember Alek selling ice cream and met him several times as I quite like the stuff! i regularly write to Alek's grand daughter who contacted me via the Tony Rea Little Italy website.

It would be good to receive any information from members who might know some of the italian history of my family and I await the outcome of this post.

Thanks for any help

Cheers
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MessagePosté le: Mer Mai 20, 2009 8:51 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Here is the information I have.
For others, I am looking tomorrow.

Carmelo Antonio MARGIOTTA nato 12/01/1858 (Picinisco) di Stefano MARGIOTTA e Caterina CASTAGNA

Maria Assunta PELOSI nata 05/10/1871 (Picinisco) di Benigno PELOSI e Nunziata CAPOCCI.

Matrimonio : 22/05/1890 (Picinisco)
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MessagePosté le: Jeu Mai 21, 2009 7:30 am    Sujet du message: Margiotta, Protano, Andreucci, Pelosi, Capocci family names Répondre en citant

Michel,

I was extremely pleased last night to receive the information you sent me. Thank you most sincerely. I am delighted that you might have more information for me in your records and eagerly await your next message.

My mum, at 85, is the eldest of 4 Margiotta sisters still alive and they will be astounded when I pass on your information.

It is amazing that you are "unlocking doors" for me within a day of me joining this forum.

Thank you again

Peter
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MessagePosté le: Jeu Mai 21, 2009 12:20 pm    Sujet du message: MARGIOTTA Répondre en citant

In the evening, I you send a new message. I already have lots of information for you.

Can you tell me who you are to the MARGIOTTA family ?

This afternoon, here at Picinisco, there is the funeral of Maria Livia MARGIOTTA. She died yesterday. She had 97 years. It was the widow of Vincenzo FERRI.

Maria Livia's family.

See you.
Michel
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MessagePosté le: Jeu Mai 21, 2009 1:15 pm    Sujet du message: Margiotta, Protano, Andreucci, Pelosi, Capocci family names Répondre en citant

Michel,

Thank you for your message and I look forward to receiving your further news this evening.

The Girardo Margiotta mentioned in my first posting was my Grandfather on my mothers side. He and Rosa Protana had 5 children My mum, Phyllis 85; her younger sisters are Teresa 83 Mary 79 and Madeline 75. Madeline was a twin whose brother, Dennis died at birth.

As i said Girardo was born in Manchester, England, but Rosa his wife came over from "Frosinone" when she was 23 years old probably towards the end of WW1 in 1917. I know she had lots of siblings but not sure of the names.

The Margiottas and Andreucci's were quite close and my Aunt Madeline says it was Arcangelo Andreucci who taught Girardo to write. Girardo's sister Maria/Mary married Arcangelo probably before they came to England but I do not know dates etc from Picinisco.

The 1911 census sheets were only last year released in Uk and I have the sheet for the Andreucci's and Arcangelo completed this in his own handwriting- with the information that he, wife Mary and brother john/Giovani were all born Picinisco. from my research it seems that the margiotta side of the family did not take part in the censuses of 1901 and 1911

I have photographs of Girardo, Rosa and Maria Assunta and of Giovani Andreucci with his first ice cream cart. Giovani's son, Alek was born in England and worked for dad and uncle on the ice cream round. I am 63 now but remember him providing the family regularly with free ice cream. I am in touch with Alek's grand daughter today

Hope this puts you 2in the picture" a little more. i will be happy to share what i have with other interested persons and again thank you most sincerely for your time and work on this.

It would be good to hear your background because i hear nothing but praise for you within the forums

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MessagePosté le: Jeu Mai 21, 2009 4:29 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

My database is created in French, my software has translated text but some term are remained in French.

Eglise = Church
Cimetière = cemetery
vers = approximately

Tomorrow I continue the research. At the end of the research I you send by E-mail a complete file.

I am interested in the originating Picinisco families. All information are welcome.



Register for CARLO MARGIOTTA


First Generation

CARLO MARGIOTTA.

He had the following children:

GIOVANNI MARGIOTTA.


Second Generation

GIOVANNI MARGIOTTA (CARLO).

GIOVANNI married ANNA DI FELICE, daughter of CRESCENZIO DI FELICE, on 22/08/1758 in PICINISCO (IT).

They had the following children:

PRUDENZIA MARGIOTTA was born on 30/09/1763 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 01/10/1763 in PICINISCO (IT). She died on 19/09/1792 in PICINISCO (IT) and was buried in PICINISCO (IT) au cimetière S. Maria.

PRUDENZIA married FRANCESCO ANTONIO PASQUALE DI AGOSTINO, son of GIOVANNI BATTISTA DI AGOSTINO and ORAZIA ANTONIA ANGELETTI, on 20/04/1791 in PICINISCO (IT). FRANCESCO was born on 01/11/1770 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 01/11/1770 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

CARLO ANTONIO MARGIOTTA was born on 31/10/1766.
VINCENZO MARGIOTTA was born vers 1775.


Third Generation

CARLO ANTONIO MARGIOTTA (GIOVANNI, CARLO) was born on 31/10/1766 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 31/10/1766 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

CARLO married MARIA COIA, daughter of COSIMO COIA and ROSA ROSSI, on 02/10/1794 in l'Eglise rurale S. Giuseppe de PICINISCO (IT). MARIA was born on 28/02/1771 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 28/02/1771 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

They had the following children:

DIAMANTE MARGIOTTA was born vers 1796.

NICOLA MARGIOTTA was born on 26/05/1809 in PICINISCO (IT) - Colleruta and was christened on 27/05/1809 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

SERAFINO ANTONIO GIOVANNI MARGIOTTA was born on 07/04/1812 in PICINISCO (IT) Colleruta and was christened on 07/04/1812 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

GIUSEPPE FORTUNATO MARGIOTTA was born on 18/04/1798.

VINCENZO MARGIOTTA (GIOVANNI, CARLO) was born vers 1775 in PICINISCO (IT).

VINCENZO married MARIA ANGELA DI FELICE, daughter of FRANCESCO BENEDETTO MATTEO DI FELICE and CATERINA CASCARINI, on 11/02/1810 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT). MARIA was born on 17/06/1783 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 17/06/1783 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

They had the following children:

MARIA CONCETTA TOMMASINA MARGIOTTA was born on 16/05/1811 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 17/05/1811 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

PAOLO ANTONIO MARGIOTTA was born on 07/03/1814 in PICINISCO (IT) - Colleruta and was christened on 07/03/1814 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

ANNA MARGIOTTA MARGIOTTA was born on 21/04/1820 in PICINISCO (IT) Colleruta and was christened on 22/04/1820 in l'Eglise S. Rocco de PICINISCO (IT).


Fourth Generation

DIAMANTE MARGIOTTA (CARLO ANTONIO, GIOVANNI, CARLO) was born vers 1796.

DIAMANTE married QUINTILIANA CARMINA GIZZI, daughter of VINCENZO ERASMO MICHELE GIZZI and DOROTEA FRANCHI, on 28/02/1819 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT). QUINTILIANA was born on 22/04/1795 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 22/04/1795 in PICINISCO (IT). She died on 05/11/1864 in PICINISCO (IT) and was buried in PICINISCO (IT) au cimetière S. Maria.

They had the following children:

GIOVANNI MARGIOTTA was born on 25/06/1820 in PICINISCO (IT) Colleruta and was christened on 25/06/1820 in l'Eglise S. Rocco de PICINISCO (IT).

ELISABETTA MARGIOTTA was born on 26/12/1822 in PICINISCO (IT) Campotrivolte and was christened on 26/12/1822 in l'Eglise S. Rocco de PICINISCO (IT).

ANNA MARGIOTTA was born on 01/01/1825 in PICINISCO (IT) Colleruta and was christened on 02/01/1825 in l'Eglise S. Rocco de PICINISCO (IT).

BENIAMINO CLEMENTE MARGIOTTA was born on 12/10/1826 in PICINISCO (IT) Campotrivolte and was christened on 12/10/1826 in l'Eglise S. Rocco de PICINISCO (IT).

FRANCESCO ANTONIO MARGIOTTA was born on 22/06/1828.

GIUSEPPE FORTUNATO MARGIOTTA (CARLO ANTONIO, GIOVANNI, CARLO) was born on 18/04/1798 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 18/04/1798 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

GIUSEPPE married ORAZIA CELINI, daughter of FRANCESCO CELINI and SERAFINA IRENE GIOVANNA PELOSI, on 22/07/1827 in l'Eglise S. Rocco de PICINISCO (IT). ORAZIA was born on 16/05/1801 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 16/05/1801 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

They had the following children:

DOMENICA MARGIOTTA was born on 14/06/1828 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 15/06/1828 in l'Eglise S. Rocco de PICINISCO (IT).

STEFANO ANTONIO MARGIOTTA was born on 25/12/1830.

EMIDIO MARGIOTTA was born on 18/06/1835 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 18/06/1835 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

FILOMENA MARGIOTTA was born on 17/02/1838 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 17/02/1838 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).


Fifth Generation

FRANCESCO ANTONIO MARGIOTTA (DIAMANTE, CARLO ANTONIO, GIOVANNI, CARLO) was born on 22/06/1828 in PICINISCO (IT) Campotrivolte and was christened on 22/06/1828 in l'Eglise S. Rocco de PICINISCO (IT).

FRANCESCO married ANGELA BENEDETTA CERVI, daughter of FORTUNATO NICOLA CERVI and SERAFINA MARIA CAROLINA VALVONA, on 21/10/1854 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT). ANGELA was born on 04/03/1827 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 04/03/1827 in l'Eglise S. Rocco de PICINISCO (IT). She died on 12/07/1878 in PICINISCO (IT) and was buried in PICINISCO (IT) au cimetière S. Maria.

They had the following children:

GIOVANNI MARGIOTTA was born on 27/08/1857.

MARIA MARGIOTTA was born on 06/04/1861 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 07/04/1861 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

CARLO MARGIOTTA was born on 09/07/1864 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 09/07/1864 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

STEFANO ANTONIO MARGIOTTA (GIUSEPPE FORTUNATO, CARLO ANTONIO, GIOVANNI, CARLO) was born on 25/12/1830 in PICINISCO (IT) Valleporcina and was christened on 26/12/1830 in l'Eglise S. Rocco de PICINISCO (IT).

STEFANO married (1) DOMENICA ANTONIA CROLLA, daughter of FILIPPO GIACOMO CROLLA and MARIA CELINI, on 20/04/1854 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT). DOMENICA was born on 21/08/1825 in PICINISCO (IT) Fontitune and was christened on 21/08/1825 in l'Eglise S. Rocco de PICINISCO (IT). She died on 14/02/1855 in PICINISCO (IT) and was buried in PICINISCO (IT) au cimetière S. Maria.


STEFANO also married (2) CATERINA CASTAGNA, daughter of ANTONIO CASTAGNA and LUCIA DI AMBROSIO, on 15/02/1857. CATERINA was born on 13/03/1829 in PICINISCO (IT) La Rocca and was christened on 13/03/1829 in l'Eglise rurale S. Gennaro de PICINISCO (IT).

They had the following children:

CARMELO ANTONIO MARGIOTTA was born on 12/01/1858.

MARIA CRISTINA MARGIOTTA was born on 01/06/1861 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 01/06/1861 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

GERARDO MARGIOTTA was born on 20/04/1865 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 20/04/1865 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

ANGELO MARGIOTTA was born on 12/04/1867 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 13/04/1867 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).
ANGELO married ANNA CAPOCCI, daughter of NICANDRO CAPOCCI and RESTITUTA PELOSI, on 17/01/1892 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).


ANNA was born on 23/12/1871 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 24/12/1871 in l'Eglise rurale S. Gennaro de PICINISCO (IT).

MARIA GRAZIA FILOMENA MARGIOTTA was born on 19/03/1870 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 19/03/1870 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).


Sixth Generation

GIOVANNI MARGIOTTA (FRANCESCO ANTONIO, DIAMANTE, CARLO ANTONIO, GIOVANNI, CARLO) was born on 27/08/1857.

GIOVANNI married LUIGIA MARCANTONI, daughter of BENIAMINO CESIDIO MARCANTONIO and MARIA MANCINI, on 17/12/1882 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT). LUIGIA was born on 02/05/1871 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 03/05/1871 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

They had the following children:

RESTITUTA MARGIOTTA.

BENEDETTA MARGIOTTA was born on 15/01/1884 in NORWICH (GB).
BENEDETTA married VINCENZO MARCANTONIO, son of ANTONIO MARCANTONIO, on 01/07/1908 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT). VINCENZO was born in VILLA LATINA (IT).

QUINTILIANA MARGIOTTA was born on 14/10/1886 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 17/10/1886 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

DIAMANTE MARGIOTTA was born on 24/04/1889 and died on 12/10/1977.

CARLO MARGIOTTA was born on 07/07/1894 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 08/07/1894 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

ROSA MARGIOTTA was born on 14/09/1895 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 15/09/1895 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

ROSALINDA MARGIOTTA was born on 23/09/1897 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 23/09/1897 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).
ROSALINDA married ANGELO TUZI, son of LUIGI TUZI and DOMENICA BIANCHI, on 23/08/1919. ANGELO was born on 07/01/1892 in SORA (IT). He died on 01/09/1954 in PICINISCO (IT) and was buried in PICINISCO (IT) au cimetière S. Maria.

CAROLINA MARGIOTTA was born on 23/12/1898 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 24/12/1898 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).
CAROLINA married ERNESTO PARRAVANO on 14/08/1919. ERNESTO was born in SORA (IT).

ANTONIO MARGIOTTA was born on 12/09/1900 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 16/09/1900 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

ANTONIO MARGIOTTA was born on 06/12/1901 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 08/12/1901 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

FILIPPO MARGIOTTA was born on 14/08/1908 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 16/08/1908 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT). He died in 02/1977 and was buried in PICINISCO (IT) au cimetière S. Maria.
FILIPPO married MARIA AMALIA CAPALDI, daughter of GAETANO CAPALDI and CHIARA VALVONA, on 02/03/1930. MARIA was born vers 1910 in PICINISCO (IT). She died on 07/07/1986 in ATINA (IT) and was
buried in PICINISCO (IT) au cimetière S. Maria.

LUCIA MARGIOTTA was born on 06/05/1910 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 10/05/1910 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

CARMELO ANTONIO MARGIOTTA (STEFANO ANTONIO, GIUSEPPE FORTUNATO, CARLO ANTONIO, GIOVANNI, CARLO) was born on 12/01/1858 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 12/01/1858 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).

CARMELO married MARIA ASSUMPTA PELOSI, daughter of BENIGNO PELOSI and NUNZIATA CAPOCCI, on 22/05/1890 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT). MARIA was born on 05/10/1871 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 05/10/1871 in l'Eglise rurale S. Gennaro de PICINISCO (IT).

They had the following children:

MARIA GIUSEPPA MARGIOTTA was born on 15/02/1891 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 16/02/1891 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT).


Seventh Generation


RESTITUTA MARGIOTTA (GIOVANNI, FRANCESCO ANTONIO, DIAMANTE, CARLO ANTONIO, GIOVANNI, CARLO).

RESTITUTA married NICOLA CERVI, son of EMIDDIO CERVI and MARIA GIUSEPPA VALENTINI, on 27/02/1927 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT). NICOLA was born on 05/10/1901 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 06/10/1901 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT). He died on 30/10/1972 in PICINISCO (IT) and was buried in PICINISCO (IT) au cimetière S. Maria.


DIAMANTE MARGIOTTA (GIOVANNI, FRANCESCO ANTONIO, DIAMANTE, CARLO ANTONIO, GIOVANNI, CARLO) was born on 24/04/1889 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 25/04/1889 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT). He died on 12/10/1977 and was buried in PICINISCO (IT) au cimetière S. Maria.


DIAMANTE married MARIA PALMA VALVONA, daughter of RAFFAELE VALVONA and LUCIA LANNI, on 17/03/1912 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT). MARIA was born on 10/10/1891 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 11/10/1891 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT). She died on 01/04/1967 in PICINISCO (IT) and was buried in PICINISCO (IT) au cimetière S. Maria.

They had the following children:

IDA MARGIOTTA was born on 18/09/1919 in PICINISCO (IT).

ELISA MARGIOTTA was born on 29/10/1928 in PICINISCO (IT).

OLIVIA MARGIOTTA was born on 31/01/1931 in PICINISCO (IT).

ELISA MARGIOTTA was born vers 1929.


Eighth Generation

ELISA MARGIOTTA (DIAMANTE, GIOVANNI, FRANCESCO ANTONIO, DIAMANTE, CARLO ANTONIO, GIOVANNI, CARLO) was born vers 1929.

ELISA married GERARDO ANTONELLI, son of ANTONIO ANTONELLI and MARIA ASSUNTA D'AMBROSIO, on 21/02/1957 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT). GERARDO was born on 13/09/1924 in PICINISCO (IT) and was christened on 21/09/1924 in l'Eglise S. Lorenzo de PICINISCO (IT). He died on 17/03/1990 in PICINISCO (IT) and was buried in PICINISCO (IT) au cimetière S. Maria.
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MessagePosté le: Jeu Mai 21, 2009 4:36 pm    Sujet du message: Sartarcangelo ANDREUCCI Répondre en citant

Tomorrow, I am also going to do research on Sartarcangelo ANDREUCCI, give me the maximum of information on him.
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MessagePosté le: Jeu Mai 21, 2009 5:59 pm    Sujet du message: Margiotta, Protano, Andreucci, Pelosi, Capocci family names Répondre en citant

Michel,

Thank you so much-your information is quite amazing!

I have a little Andreucci information as follows;

this information comes from my mother and her sisters and from the UK 1911 census

Arcangelo Andreucci was head of the family and was 28 years old at the time of the 1911 census- so born c 1883 census says he was born Picinisco and is completed in his own handwriting

His wife is Mary Andreucci (nee Margiotta) aged 20 in the 1911 census so born c 1891 again in Picinisco

Giovani/John Andreucci is his brother again born Picinisco aged 25 at the census so born c 1886

Giovani was married to "Maggie" in 1904 Maggie was english from Sale, Cheshire, England. At the time of the census John and Maggie listed 2 children -Mary Andreucci aged 5yrs "at school" and Alek aged 2.

I have told you that I remember as a child of about 11 meeting Alek several times because he worked in the family business selling ice cream.

The ice cream business started from the home of Arcangelo and Giovani and in the census this is listed as 376 Oldham Road, Manchester- at the heart of the Manchester italian community. The name of the business was anglicised to "John Andrews Ices" was in being for the 1911 census and must have been gioing still say in 1954 when I regularly saw Alek on the ice cream van.

In the 1911 census Arcangelo listed himself as a shopkeeper and Giovani as a street musician. A family source says that Giovani died aged 42 but that Maggie lived to age 79

Arcangelo was known as "Aracange" to my gran Rosa- obviously the name was changed by her Italian accent.

Mum and her sisters say that Arcangelo and Mary went on to have several children. Not in order but Matthew born c 1928 Luigi born c 1911 Alfredo born c 1926 Winifred born c 1930 Mary born c 1916 Miducio born c 1912 and Pietro born c 1926

I hope this is helpful.

As I said earlier I have one or two photographs. i do not know how to post in this forum but if you give me a seperate e mail address I will try to forward them to you

Again thank you sincerely,

God Bless

Peter
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MessagePosté le: Ven Mai 22, 2009 9:10 pm    Sujet du message: MARGIOTTA/ANDREUCCI Répondre en citant

Hello Peter,

Today I am researching Arcangelo ANDREUCCI. I have found! I also found Giovanni ANDREUCCI and his marriage with Maggie (Margarita ROYLE).
I also continued research on the Margiotta. I continue tomorrow morning, I think that I have finished.
I must then put my maiison in order because Sunday I returned to Brussels.
Tuesday I repeat, unfortunately the work. Tuesday or Wednesday I you send the result of the latest research.

Don't be afraid, I do not forget you!

I continue research at the House in Brussels, I have a copy of the entire archives of Picinisco.

Michel
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Jill



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MessagePosté le: Ven Mai 29, 2009 12:27 pm    Sujet du message: Archangelo Andreucci Répondre en citant

Michel
I have already been in contact with Peter but now I have read this thread I thought I could tell you what happened to Archangelo.
Archangelo Andreucci is my husband's great grandfather. He was, as you know, married to Maria Margiotta - who my husband remembers fondly so (I will get confirmation of the exact date) I'm guessing she died in the late 1960's. I also have record of Archangelo's brothers Guiseppe(John) and also Antonio (b. 1885) - he appears on the 1901 census but I can find no record of him after that.
Archangelo and Maria had 6 children Matteo, Luigi(b. 1911), Winifred (b. 1916 d. 2006), Mary (b. abt 1920 died as a child), Pietro (b. 1926) and Alfredo (b. 1926). They had a family ice cream business on Oldham Road and then in Ancoats in Manchester. Sadly, in 1940 - ironically, whilst Pietro was away fighting for Great Britain in Africa Archangelo, his father, was taken from home in the middle of the night and interred before being deported. He was on the SS Arandora Star on the 2/7/1940 bound for Canada when it was sunk. Legend goes that Archangelo hit his head on a lifeboat and somehow because of that was saved from drowning. He was taken back to Liverpool and hospitalised but as soon as he was well enough he was deported to Australia where he stayed for 4 years. He returned to the UK after the war but arrived back with bronchitis and died less than a fortnight later. My husband's grandmother, Winifred, never saw her father again after the night he was taken away in 1940.
Pietro lived with his mother, Maria, until she died.
Winifred married Fred Trafford in 1933 and had 2 children, Antony and Angela. Antony (Uncle Tony) lived with his mother (Winifred) until she died in 2006 and still lives in Denton, Manchester. Angela married Ron Henshall and had 3 children, Susan, Vincent (my husband) and Julie, sadly she died in 2005.


Out of interest - on the Margiotta side I came across a Diamante Margiotta (born 1889 in Picinisco) travelling from Naples to New York on the 'Roma' to work....

Hope this is of some interest...and I would be very interested in the Andreucci family history - Peter tells me you are working on it!

Regards & best wishes
Jill Henshall
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MessagePosté le: Mar Juin 02, 2009 6:49 pm    Sujet du message: MARGIOTTA / ANDREIUCCI Répondre en citant

Hello Peter,

Excuse me for the delay, but as I say, I had a lot of work.
For the Margiotta family I am raised to the early books. Before these dates there are no entries.

In fact, I have yet been back a generation but the Margiotta came to a different village. Antonio MARGIOTTA very probably came to Picinisco to 1588 or 1589. He was already married to Bernardina which I find's family name.

I do not find the village of origin of the Margiotta before this date. May I find later by other research.

I send your email address family MARGIOTTA and ANDREIUCCI files

I wish you lots of fun discovering your genealogy.

All information that you can send me to complete my files will be welcome.
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MessagePosté le: Dim Nov 15, 2009 2:47 pm    Sujet du message: Giovani Andreucci Répondre en citant

My name is Alan Robinson i am the great grandson of Giovani Andreucci
on my mothers side i noticed on the forum that you mentioned him being married to maggie and having 2 children Mary and Alec they also had John
Joseph Philomena and Frances my grandmother being Philomena although i never met her she died of tb when my mother was 2 she was then adopted by Frances who never had children of her own, who i know as my grandmother she died aged 71 in 1982.
I dont have much information on Giovani`s brothers or even any names regarding his mother and fathers names could you help me with this and any photo`s you may have.
Thanks
Alan
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MessagePosté le: Dim Nov 15, 2009 10:46 pm    Sujet du message: Andreucci Répondre en citant

Hi,

thanks for getting in touch- i guess you must be related to Jill Robinson who is also a member of this forum.

I have some Andreucci pictures and if you will give me your normal e mail , i will send them to you

Cheers

Peter Barnes

PS dear Michel Vacca has done some great and valuable research in these pages on the Picinisco andreuccis- no doubt you will have read this valuable stuff
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MessagePosté le: Mar Nov 17, 2009 2:38 pm    Sujet du message: Giuseppe Margiotta Répondre en citant

Hi Peter,
Do you have a Giuseppe Margiotta (b. 11.10.1866) on your family tree at all? He married Filomena Cascarini in Swansea in 1891. She was the sister of my great grandfather, Luigi Cascarini.
I look forward to hearing from you!
Jim
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MessagePosté le: Mar Nov 17, 2009 6:26 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Hi Peter
Thanks for the reply yes it would be great to see some photo`s
my email is alnic.robinson563@ntlworld.com.
Thanks once again
Alan
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